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Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby BornundertheElmslie » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:19 pm

So after 32 years Stones and Barnet will lock horns again in league competition and as peers. But is there any derby match in English football that has a sub plot like this one?

When the Stones were relegated from the Conference it triggered a decline that ultimately saw us lose Lower Mead, homeless for 17 years and drop 5 divisions to the Isthmian Division Three. Barnet on the other hand progressed into the Football League and made it as far as the third tier during that period.

After 10 years of hard work and negotiation, the Stones finally secured planning permission for a new stadium back home in Harrow and work commenced in 2003. But the project began to be hindered by various problems and the building work was halted completely in 2004, when the private company paying the builders (our development partners) went into liquidation, something completely outside of the control of the club. When work stopped the grounds had already been transformed with the extensive outside pitches levelled and a new 3,000 capacity stadium 70% built.

After the council put the site up for tender again - with the condition that the winning bidder must complete the stadium for Wealdstone FC - Barnet FC bid and won on the premise it was to host their training ground and academy. Despite joint press releases and assurances from Barnet and TK that the Stones would have their finished stadium, a commercial deal was proposed that would make it impossible for the Stones to survive in their new ground. And despite assurances that Barnet had no plans to move their first team to the ground, Underhill was eventually sold and Barnet FC moved in lock stock and barrel to a home in Harrow that was meant to be for Wealdstone FC.

It left the Stones having to look elsewhere for security so took over the lease at Grosvenor Vale and in 2013 Barnet made their inevitable switch to PEPF. Since then, the sleeping Stones giant has awoken winning the Ryman League and National League South and reaching 2 FA Trophy semi finals whilst growing average attendances from 300 to around 1,100. Barnet’s move to Harrow has seen them suffer a slow decline with gates plummeting to levels not seen since the 80s and relegation from the Football League back into non-league football.

Both clubs now meet as peers in a ridiculous situation that will see Stones fans travel to an away game to play at a stadium that was meant for our club, back in our traditional home town, against a club who shafted another and now having to play home games away from it’s traditional heartland too. One thing is certain, the away end at The Hive will never have sounded as loud as it will when the Stones are back in town..
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby worruz » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:24 pm

BornundertheElmslie wrote:So after 32 years Stones and Barnet will lock horns again in league competition and as peers. But is there any derby match in English football that has a sub plot like this one?

When the Stones were relegated from the Conference it triggered a decline that ultimately saw us lose Lower Mead, homeless for 17 years and drop 5 divisions to the Isthmian Division Three. Barnet on the other hand progressed into the Football League and made it as far as the third tier during that period.

After 10 years of hard work and negotiation, the Stones finally secured planning permission for a new stadium back home in Harrow and work commenced in 2003. But the project began to be hindered by various problems and the building work was halted completely in 2004, when the private company paying the builders (our development partners) went into liquidation, something completely outside of the control of the club. When work stopped the grounds had already been transformed with the extensive outside pitches levelled and a new 3,000 capacity stadium 70% built.

After the council put the site up for tender again - with the condition that the winning bidder must complete the stadium for Wealdstone FC - Barnet FC bid and won on the premise it was to host their training ground and academy. Despite joint press releases and assurances from Barnet and TK that the Stones would have their finished stadium, a commercial deal was proposed that would make it impossible for the Stones to survive in their new ground. And despite assurances that Barnet had no plans to move their first team to the ground, Underhill was eventually sold and Barnet FC moved in lock stock and barrel to a home in Harrow that was meant to be for Wealdstone FC.

It left the Stones having to look elsewhere for security so took over the lease at Grosvenor Vale and in 2013 Barnet made their inevitable switch to PEPF. Since then, the sleeping Stones giant has awoken winning the Ryman League and National League South and reaching 2 FA Trophy semi finals whilst growing average attendances from 300 to around 1,100. Barnet’s move to Harrow has seen them suffer a slow decline with gates plummeting to levels not seen since the 80s and relegation from the Football League back into non-league football.

Both clubs now meet as peers in a ridiculous situation that will see Stones fans travel to an away game to play at a stadium that was meant for our club, back in our traditional home town, against a club who shafted another and now having to play home games away from it’s traditional heartland too. One thing is certain, the away end at The Hive will never have sounded as loud as it will when the Stones are back in town..

You didn't write this did you?

Where did you copy it from?
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby BornundertheElmslie » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:26 pm

worruz wrote:
BornundertheElmslie wrote:So after 32 years Stones and Barnet will lock horns again in league competition and as peers. But is there any derby match in English football that has a sub plot like this one?

When the Stones were relegated from the Conference it triggered a decline that ultimately saw us lose Lower Mead, homeless for 17 years and drop 5 divisions to the Isthmian Division Three. Barnet on the other hand progressed into the Football League and made it as far as the third tier during that period.

After 10 years of hard work and negotiation, the Stones finally secured planning permission for a new stadium back home in Harrow and work commenced in 2003. But the project began to be hindered by various problems and the building work was halted completely in 2004, when the private company paying the builders (our development partners) went into liquidation, something completely outside of the control of the club. When work stopped the grounds had already been transformed with the extensive outside pitches levelled and a new 3,000 capacity stadium 70% built.

After the council put the site up for tender again - with the condition that the winning bidder must complete the stadium for Wealdstone FC - Barnet FC bid and won on the premise it was to host their training ground and academy. Despite joint press releases and assurances from Barnet and TK that the Stones would have their finished stadium, a commercial deal was proposed that would make it impossible for the Stones to survive in their new ground. And despite assurances that Barnet had no plans to move their first team to the ground, Underhill was eventually sold and Barnet FC moved in lock stock and barrel to a home in Harrow that was meant to be for Wealdstone FC.

It left the Stones having to look elsewhere for security so took over the lease at Grosvenor Vale and in 2013 Barnet made their inevitable switch to PEPF. Since then, the sleeping Stones giant has awoken winning the Ryman League and National League South and reaching 2 FA Trophy semi finals whilst growing average attendances from 300 to around 1,100. Barnet’s move to Harrow has seen them suffer a slow decline with gates plummeting to levels not seen since the 80s and relegation from the Football League back into non-league football.

Both clubs now meet as peers in a ridiculous situation that will see Stones fans travel to an away game to play at a stadium that was meant for our club, back in our traditional home town, against a club who shafted another and now having to play home games away from it’s traditional heartland too. One thing is certain, the away end at The Hive will never have sounded as loud as it will when the Stones are back in town..

You didn't write this did you?

Where did you copy it from?


All my own work..
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby worruz » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:28 pm

BornundertheElmslie wrote:Barnet FC bid and won on the premise it was to host their training ground and academy. Despite joint press releases and assurances from Barnet and TK that the Stones would have their finished stadium, a commercial deal was proposed that would make it impossible for the Stones to survive in their new ground. And despite assurances that Barnet had no plans to move their first team to the ground, Underhill was eventually sold and Barnet FC moved in lock stock and barrel to a home in Harrow that was meant to be for Wealdstone FC.
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A blind man could have seen what was going to happen once Barnet got involved.
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby worruz » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:41 pm

BornundertheElmslie wrote:
worruz wrote:
BornundertheElmslie wrote:So after 32 years Stones and Barnet will lock horns again in league competition and as peers. But is there any derby match in English football that has a sub plot like this one?

When the Stones were relegated from the Conference it triggered a decline that ultimately saw us lose Lower Mead, homeless for 17 years and drop 5 divisions to the Isthmian Division Three. Barnet on the other hand progressed into the Football League and made it as far as the third tier during that period.

After 10 years of hard work and negotiation, the Stones finally secured planning permission for a new stadium back home in Harrow and work commenced in 2003. But the project began to be hindered by various problems and the building work was halted completely in 2004, when the private company paying the builders (our development partners) went into liquidation, something completely outside of the control of the club. When work stopped the grounds had already been transformed with the extensive outside pitches levelled and a new 3,000 capacity stadium 70% built.

After the council put the site up for tender again - with the condition that the winning bidder must complete the stadium for Wealdstone FC - Barnet FC bid and won on the premise it was to host their training ground and academy. Despite joint press releases and assurances from Barnet and TK that the Stones would have their finished stadium, a commercial deal was proposed that would make it impossible for the Stones to survive in their new ground. And despite assurances that Barnet had no plans to move their first team to the ground, Underhill was eventually sold and Barnet FC moved in lock stock and barrel to a home in Harrow that was meant to be for Wealdstone FC.

It left the Stones having to look elsewhere for security so took over the lease at Grosvenor Vale and in 2013 Barnet made their inevitable switch to PEPF. Since then, the sleeping Stones giant has awoken winning the Ryman League and National League South and reaching 2 FA Trophy semi finals whilst growing average attendances from 300 to around 1,100. Barnet’s move to Harrow has seen them suffer a slow decline with gates plummeting to levels not seen since the 80s and relegation from the Football League back into non-league football.

Both clubs now meet as peers in a ridiculous situation that will see Stones fans travel to an away game to play at a stadium that was meant for our club, back in our traditional home town, against a club who shafted another and now having to play home games away from it’s traditional heartland too. One thing is certain, the away end at The Hive will never have sounded as loud as it will when the Stones are back in town..

You didn't write this did you?

Where did you copy it from?


All my own work..

Fair enough.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdUoZJvdipA
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby charlie » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:58 am

Great read from BUTE.

Missing is the major role that the.. "dreadful Harrow Labour Council "..took in allowing Kleanthous to ride roughshod over planning regs, culminating in Harrow Council selling 44 acres to
Kleanthous for only £2m.

To celebrate Harrow Council Staff arranged a little jolly of a football game at the site.
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby charlie » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:18 am

I think you forget to add charlie, that Kleanthous offered Wealdstone £50k,.. to bugger off.. despite Stones own money to get this project up and running.

Our return ZERO.

Welcome to Wealdstone next season.. Scum.
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby attic » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:21 am

As soon as Barnet's involvement was announced I can remember several of our fans suggesting the inevitable. The sincerity of their statements was never in doubt either. The original press release summed it up. Wealdstone were finally mentioned after about five paragraphs and about five words remaining.
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby Elmslie Ender » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:39 am

BornundertheElmslie wrote:So after 32 years Stones and Barnet will lock horns again in league competition and as peers. But is there any derby match in English football that has a sub plot like this one?

When the Stones were relegated from the Conference it triggered a decline that ultimately saw us lose Lower Mead, homeless for 17 years and drop 5 divisions to the Isthmian Division Three. Barnet on the other hand progressed into the Football League and made it as far as the third tier during that period.

After 10 years of hard work and negotiation, the Stones finally secured planning permission for a new stadium back home in Harrow and work commenced in 2003. But the project began to be hindered by various problems and the building work was halted completely in 2004, when the private company paying the builders (our development partners) went into liquidation, something completely outside of the control of the club. When work stopped the grounds had already been transformed with the extensive outside pitches levelled and a new 3,000 capacity stadium 70% built.

After the council put the site up for tender again - with the condition that the winning bidder must complete the stadium for Wealdstone FC - Barnet FC bid and won on the premise it was to host their training ground and academy. Despite joint press releases and assurances from Barnet and TK that the Stones would have their finished stadium, a commercial deal was proposed that would make it impossible for the Stones to survive in their new ground. And despite assurances that Barnet had no plans to move their first team to the ground, Underhill was eventually sold and Barnet FC moved in lock stock and barrel to a home in Harrow that was meant to be for Wealdstone FC.

It left the Stones having to look elsewhere for security so took over the lease at Grosvenor Vale and in 2013 Barnet made their inevitable switch to PEPF. Since then, the sleeping Stones giant has awoken winning the Ryman League and National League South and reaching 2 FA Trophy semi finals whilst growing average attendances from 300 to around 1,100. Barnet’s move to Harrow has seen them suffer a slow decline with gates plummeting to levels not seen since the 80s and relegation from the Football League back into non-league football.

Both clubs now meet as peers in a ridiculous situation that will see Stones fans travel to an away game to play at a stadium that was meant for our club, back in our traditional home town, against a club who shafted another and now having to play home games away from it’s traditional heartland too. One thing is certain, the away end at The Hive will never have sounded as loud as it will when the Stones are back in town..


Great read, Bute. Let’s hope the powers to be allow us the opportunity to pack that end.
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Re: Stones and Barnet resume rivalries, with a twist

Postby Stoney Ground » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:44 am

BornundertheElmslie wrote:So after 32 years Stones and Barnet will lock horns again in league competition and as peers. But is there any derby match in English football that has a sub plot like this one?

When the Stones were relegated from the Conference it triggered a decline that ultimately saw us lose Lower Mead, homeless for 17 years and drop 5 divisions to the Isthmian Division Three. Barnet on the other hand progressed into the Football League and made it as far as the third tier during that period.

After 10 years of hard work and negotiation, the Stones finally secured planning permission for a new stadium back home in Harrow and work commenced in 2003. But the project began to be hindered by various problems and the building work was halted completely in 2004, when the private company paying the builders (our development partners) went into liquidation, something completely outside of the control of the club. When work stopped the grounds had already been transformed with the extensive outside pitches levelled and a new 3,000 capacity stadium 70% built.

After the council put the site up for tender again - with the condition that the winning bidder must complete the stadium for Wealdstone FC - Barnet FC bid and won on the premise it was to host their training ground and academy. Despite joint press releases and assurances from Barnet and TK that the Stones would have their finished stadium, a commercial deal was proposed that would make it impossible for the Stones to survive in their new ground. And despite assurances that Barnet had no plans to move their first team to the ground, Underhill was eventually sold and Barnet FC moved in lock stock and barrel to a home in Harrow that was meant to be for Wealdstone FC.

It left the Stones having to look elsewhere for security so took over the lease at Grosvenor Vale and in 2013 Barnet made their inevitable switch to PEPF. Since then, the sleeping Stones giant has awoken winning the Ryman League and National League South and reaching 2 FA Trophy semi finals whilst growing average attendances from 300 to around 1,100. Barnet’s move to Harrow has seen them suffer a slow decline with gates plummeting to levels not seen since the 80s and relegation from the Football League back into non-league football.

Both clubs now meet as peers in a ridiculous situation that will see Stones fans travel to an away game to play at a stadium that was meant for our club, back in our traditional home town, against a club who shafted another and now having to play home games away from it’s traditional heartland too. One thing is certain, the away end at The Hive will never have sounded as loud as it will when the Stones are back in town..


Would be good if it was in the match day programme, when we play them.
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